New This Week: Global Competition — Should the Government Take an Equity Stake in Certain Businesses?
Could it be a proactive competitive strategy in shifting geopolitical times or one that should only ever be done as a resort?
Photo credit: Don Pollard with the Council on Foreign Relations
As governments around the world take a more active role in shaping markets, a long-running economic question is moving back to center stage as the U.S. reconsiders its economic playbook in an era of geopolitical competition: when should the state step in — and how far should it go?
In front of a live, voting audience at the Council on Foreign Relations, our debaters took on a growing, but necessary economic question: Government as Shareholder: Proactive Competitive Strategy or Last Resort?
It’s not just a theoretical debate. In recent weeks, the issue has been examined in major outlets, including The Wall Street Journal, Foreign Affairs, Bloomberg, and The Economist. President Trump’s actions during his second term — including government stakes tied to industries such as semiconductors, rare earth minerals, defense manufacturing, and critical infrastructure, and more explicitly in companies like Intel — have intensified conversations about whether public investment can strengthen national competitiveness or whether government ownership risks distorting markets in ways that create more problems than solutions.
With markets watching and policymakers experimenting, where should the line be drawn? The audience’s votes before and after may surprise you – listen now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube, and let us know what you think.
Arguing “Proactive Competitive Strategy”:
Laura Taylor-Kale, Senior Fellow for Geoeconomics and Defense at the Council on Foreign Relations and Former Assistant Secretary of Defense for Industrial Policy
"When markets move too slowly to protect the nation, should the government have the ability to act? And we've already said that it's okay for the government to have loans, it's okay for the government to have grants, it's okay for the government to have purchase commitments, and all these other solutions. What we're saying is equity should be another piece of that toolkit for the government to act when markets are moving too slowly."
Richard Falkenrath, Senior Fellow for National Security at the Council on Foreign Relations; MJ Chung Distinguished Chair at the School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University
“When you come to the table, and you're working through a problem, should you just come in and say, 'You know what? I can't even talk about [a] policy of equity because I have this point of view, and all this history, and these things we've studied in the past.' Or should you come in and say, 'No, let's think open-mindedly and creatively about the different tools and the different things we could do that might work in this 21st-century economy we have?'"
Arguing “Last Resort”:
Bob Pozen, Distinguished Senior Lecturer at MIT Sloan School of Management; Former President of Fidelity Investments
"I submit that government ownership should be a last resort, not for ideological reasons, but for practical reasons, that we could do these things without government ownership in most cases, and we can avoid the lots of negatives that are associated with government ownership."
Yasheng Huang, Epoch Foundation Professor of Global Economics and Management at the MIT Sloan School of Management; Author of “The Rise and the Fall of the EAST”
"Worldwide, the evidence is super clear. Government ownership leads to more failures than successes, and this is a sobering reality that we need to pay attention to in order to not to repeat the mistakes. If a government in a democratic society makes wrong investment and ownership decisions, it damages the credibility and the legitimacy of the government.”
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To me, this is one of the best 2 vs 2 debates y’all have hosted. I learned something from each debater and even the audience questions were useful.