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Simple Science's avatar

I went on YouTube first, and saw that all the comments were one-sided. This is making me question your audience.

I find the debates generally jump into a superficial consideration of the question.

A proper question should address what do we mean by "hurt?" As opposed to before feminism emerged? Who was hurt before and who is being hurt now?

Could the person arguing "yes" admit that the old system was oppressive? Why did we move away from it? She argues that we should return to a time when women did not have credit cards because she can't handle her own finances and she thinks the man in her life would do a better job? That was literally the argument we ended up with. Highly disappointing.

And then they could both engage with the statistics around happiness. In my mind, the question is who was happier previously and who is happier vs. who is unhappy now?

For example, while feminism has made inroads both in the US and in Europe, the evolution of gender happiness is different in the two areas.

Maybe we should strive more towards exploration than debate. The presentation left me with no more awareness of the issues that should be considered than I had previously. And it's making me wonder to what point the structure of debate guarantees that we stay superficial.

squarooticus's avatar

This would be a much better debate if the "No" position had a credible advocate instead of a progressive omnicause type who denies the very premise of the debate by questioning the sex binary. Even if you didn't intend it that way, this is like a straw man debate, set up to make one side seem like a joke. It's unserious. Try harder.

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